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Posted: 13.03.2020  ·  #41
(Speaking of mis-information...) :-)

Wouldn't that be ironic! :lol:

 

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Posted: 13.03.2020  ·  #42
Looks like you are gonna have to brush up !


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Posted: 13.03.2020  ·  #43
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I don’t think the government made the decision, more so the highly qualified scientists but in any case it may be a wrong or right decision


I think it was the government. It was they who chose to use those particular scientists. There are plenty who would have seen things differently.
Ally is right I think. A big experiment...if they fail they have the silver lining of loads less old people costing the nhs money...ho hum

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Posted: 13.03.2020  ·  #44
History is not kind.
Foot and mouth 2001 and uk government sat on their brains while the rest of us watch the pyres burning.
One case due to illegal activity in Ireland and we got a 60 day shut down.
Foot and mouth stopped.
At that time I was in the farming career, seen neighbour attack neighbour, etc.
Health is your only wealth at the end of the day.
A small sacrifice of kicking around at home for a month or so, is a small price to protect your nearest and dearest.
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Posted: 14.03.2020  ·  #45
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Posted: 14.03.2020  ·  #48
Free changes on bookings made between 1st Jan and 30april not much help there as most of us would have booked last year


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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #49
I know you can quote statistics to suit the situation but I found this and with Boris's Herd mentality it does make a bit of sense.

For most people under 60 this is a very mild illness.  Over 75 the death rate is 8% or more. 

Still, the Chief Medical Officer thinks 70% of Brits will catch it.  

He estimated a 1% overall mortality.  

The mathematics are quite simple:-

67,700,000 people living in the UK

70% of them will catch it.  That’s 47,390,000.

Of those, 15% will need hospitalization.  That’s 7,108,500.

And 5% will need intensive care.  That’s 2,369,500 in a country with 4,048 critical care beds as of last December.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/sta…-4yAu1.pdf

And 1% of those infected will die.  That’s 473,900 people which is 200,000 more than British forces deaths in World War II.  
 

If the epidemic has a steep peak, the 4,048 ICU beds will be overwhelmed and a much higher percentage of the very ill will die.  That’s why slowing down the epidemic is so important.  
 

In Hubei province and Wuhan city, 3.8% of those infected died.  Applied to the UK that would be 1,800,820 dead.  

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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #50
Medical statisticians predicts between 15,000-25,000 deaths in the long term on the Island of Ireland assuming a 70% infection rate in the general populous..... quite frightening.
Expand that to a UK demographic and the long term death rates are 10x that = 250,000.... assuming 70% spread.

But, with all things like this which we know little, the figures will be quite speculative in their predictions..... but they believe this would be a ‘realistic base figure’....
it’s something to focus the population at least.

I think much more stringent controls need (and will) be imposed in the coming weeks.

Interesting article written by an Italian doctor, forewarning Ireland to get ready.
https://www.rte.ie/news/corona…ly-doctor/


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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #51
The Foreign Minister from Korea was interviewed on the Andrew Marr Show Korea has been very pro active in testing people and monitoring them after test. The reported cases are slowly dropping

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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #52
Quote by TommyS

I know you can quote statistics to suit the situation but I found this and with Boris's Herd mentality it does make a bit of sense.


Your argument Tommy supports the idea of slowing down the spread of the virus so as not to overwhelm the health system. “Flatten the curve”. That’s the opposite to what Boris is at.

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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #53
Not really. I was just quoting the statistics. But with the herd mentality it could become reality.

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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #56
A GP on tv just now was saying that Ireland may get criticized for putting in too many measures....she also said that once this is over, if that is their only fault, then it may be a hell of a lot better than the uk getting their strategy wrong with lots of deaths as a result...made sense to me!


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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #59
That video makes a lot of sense to me, I just hope it works

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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #60
Look at Italy. They have hospitals that cant cope and enforced lockdown. Is that not what happens when there was an initial period of inaction?

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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #61
Rambler I reread my post. I see what its implying. It looks as if I am supporting his decision and that's not the case. I am saying that if the herd mentality is allowed to continue these are the numbers we are likely to be faced with.

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Anyway. I'm going to self isolate tonight

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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #63
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Rambler I reread my post. I see what its implying. It looks as if I am supporting his decision and that's not the case. I am saying that if the herd mentality is allowed to continue these are the numbers we are likely to be faced with.


I hear you Tommy.

Too much self isolating and you could go blind.

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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #64
The bar I was in yesterday evening, I see now from their FB page have taken the decision to shut its doors indefinitely. So too has our local pub. I assume this is happening all over.

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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #65
Indeed it is. Quite a few shut in Wexford

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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #66
Two children and one adult. Related too and friend of a Craic'er. Have Covid19. ☹

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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #67
My wife’s cousin has it. He had a sore throat and a bit of a fever. He’s over it now he just has to keep isolated for a while


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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #68
The three I posted about are not included in the statistics as they are kept at home and hospitalised.


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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #69
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Look at Italy. They have hospitals that cant cope and enforced lockdown. Is that not what happens when there was an initial period of inaction?


Exactly.


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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #73
Quote by baguette

Says it all


Seen that 😐 population control.

P.s. you don't need tags for YouTube videos, just put the address in.


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Posted: 15.03.2020  ·  #74
Good find @baguette . Why were our governments not paying attention to people like Gates?


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Posted: 16.03.2020  ·  #75
"Because the World Health Organisation has declared a pandemic situation it is likely that most insurance policies will exclude claims arising from Coronavirus/Covid-19" British Insurance Brokers' Association


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Posted: 16.03.2020  ·  #76
I just don't believe it :o
How could a person who puts himself forward an expert in medical matters be so far removed from the facts? It beggars belief how his 'fake news' could go unchallenged on a national television program.
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Posted: 16.03.2020  ·  #77
Big turn around for the UK government. Hopefully it’s not too late. Thousands of lives at stake. Can’t see it being back to normal in a couple of weeks, anywhere. Tough times ahead for everyone, financially, even without getting sick.

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Posted: 17.03.2020  ·  #78
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Big turn around for the UK government. Hopefully it’s not too late. Thousands of lives at stake. Can’t see it being back to normal in a couple of weeks, anywhere. Tough times ahead for everyone, financially, even without getting sick.


They seem to be playing catch up with the rest of Europe...hard to believe it really.

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Posted: 17.03.2020  ·  #79
I have a cousin who is a theatre nurse in the UK. They have been given absolutely no support, advice or help. If they have a cold / flu they are sent home without testing. I am truely flabbergasted at Boris approach to this, which seems to be fully based on economics

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Posted: 17.03.2020  ·  #80
I think that is why Johnson has told people not to go to pubs etc but has said they can stay open!
They can't claim insurance then....


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