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 ·  Posted: 27.04.2018  ·  #81
I got the receipt e-mail showing QR code and type of sticker on 20/04 but still no sticker 27/04 how long does it take to arrive , I know the E-mail covers me so not worried but the sticker would be easier than having to show a piece of paper
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 ·  Posted: 27.04.2018  ·  #82
Just for info for those not yet familiar with clean air/pollution stickers.

In France, the lower the number the cleaner the engine
In Germany, the lower the number the dirtier the engine

So a French 5 is more or less the same as a German 1, both represent the oldest type of dirty diesels.

:-| :-|
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 ·  Posted: 27.04.2018  ·  #83
Whilst opinion is that not many french drivers have a critair sticker, indeed we are just back from 3 weeks in France from cherbourg as far south as Limoges and saw few cars with stickers, have a look at this link.

https://www.connexionfrance.co…ow-drivers

Also the places affected are becoming whole areas of France (check the Crit air site for updates) not just the major cities. Worth getting one for peace of mind, and it is a one off.


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 ·  Posted: 27.04.2018  ·  #84
Mine arrived in about 10 days, I applied for the German version 5 weeks ago, still no sign. I have emailed to see what the hold up is
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 ·  Posted: 27.04.2018  ·  #85
Quote by baguette

Just for info for those not yet familiar with clean air/pollution stickers.

In France, the lower the number the cleaner the engine
In Germany, the lower the number the dirtier the engine

So a French 5 is more or less the same as a German 1, both represent the oldest type of dirty diesels.

:-| :-|


So much for european integration! !!!!!!!!
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 ·  Posted: 28.04.2018  ·  #86
Quote by Thorn123

Quote by baguette

Just for info for those not yet familiar with clean air/pollution stickers.

In France, the lower the number the cleaner the engine
In Germany, the lower the number the dirtier the engine

So a French 5 is more or less the same as a German 1, both represent the oldest type of dirty diesels.

:-| :-|


So much for european integration! !!!!!!!!

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 ·  Posted: 04.05.2018  ·  #87
Does anyone know if there is a specific place to put the sticker on the inside of the front screen
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 ·  Posted: 04.05.2018  ·  #89
Cheers Jonny just wanted to be sure Edd
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 ·  Posted: 04.05.2018  ·  #90
Just got the German version
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 ·  Posted: 04.05.2018  ·  #91
I have mine high in the right. Down low was getting very cluttered
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 ·  Posted: 05.05.2018  ·  #92
Ordered mine on 17/04 confirmation on 19/04 have been emailed it was despatched 30/04 still haven't received it , so if you need one order it asap (maybe as a Christmas present ) 😁
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 ·  Posted: 05.05.2018  ·  #93
That’s weird. Mine and R&N’s arrived in about a week
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 ·  Posted: 06.05.2018  ·  #94
Ordering one is on my "must do" list this week. We are heading to France in July with a plan for Roscoff to Le Rochelle and then return via Poitiers/ Tours and then home through Cherbourg. There is a good section of that run that is now controlled.
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 ·  Posted: 06.05.2018  ·  #95
I ordered mine on Friday, received the confirmation email very quickly . It will be interesting to see how long it takes, hopefully it will be here before the end of May. I'm also going down as far as La Rochelle in early June. I will update here when I get any progress.
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 ·  Posted: 08.05.2018  ·  #96
Lads,
1). I am going toFrance in July. I have looked at this, and just wondering is there an English language website to facilitate understanding/completing the application?. Totally at sea at the moment. Right now I think I will be circulation around Cotentin and Normandy.
2) see R&N’s query of 27/3’ stating that his certificate shows CO2 emissions as 999g/km. mine shows the same. Not sure of implications. Perhaps the year of manufacture will suffice. I might phone Peugeot Irl for figures??
Any info pl?
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 ·  Posted: 08.05.2018  ·  #97
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 ·  Posted: 08.05.2018  ·  #98
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2) see R&N’s query of 27/3’ stating that his certificate shows CO2 emissions as 999g/km. mine shows the same. Not sure of implications. Perhaps the year of manufacture will suffice. I might phone Peugeot Irl for figures??
Any info pl?
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We had a similar issue.
I checked the certificate of conformity which was also unclear so i phoned Auto Trail and they told me which figure was correct. Maybe you will need to do similar..
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 ·  Posted: 08.05.2018  ·  #99
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2) see R&N’s query of 27/3’ stating that his certificate shows CO2 emissions as 999g/km. mine shows the same. Not sure of implications. Perhaps the year of manufacture will suffice. I might phone Peugeot Irl for figures??
Any info pl?
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We had a similar issue.
I checked the certificate of conformity which was also unclear so i phoned Auto Trail and they told me which figure was correct. Maybe you will need to do similar..


My RegDoc also showed 999 as the CO2 emissions. I left that section blank when applying, and received an email confirming receipt of application and the issuing of category 2 sticker. Year of registration (2016) only seems to be ok for the later registration.
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 ·  Posted: 08.05.2018  ·  #100
RAc website have an English version. I have used it easy to follow
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 ·  Posted: 08.05.2018  ·  #101
https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/en/demande-ext/cgu This is link to frenchgov site in English. Very important to make sure attachment is in pdf and file not too large. You can open pdf in word and save it as a reduced size file. As far as co2 emissions, mine is a Ducato 2009 engine, reg cert said 999 ie default as not used in Ireland, Fiat say emissions are 199, so when completing application I used this figure. However I think the authorities use Year of manufacture for their certification. Very straightforward using the link above, you get notification and temp cert by email very quickly and sticker in post within 10 days, at least we did.
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 ·  Posted: 08.05.2018  ·  #102
Thanks folks for prompt and helpful replies.
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 ·  Posted: 08.05.2018  ·  #103
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....................................... his certificate shows CO2 emissions as 999g/km. mine shows the same....................................


Registrations issued by Shannon are for the most part works of fiction and bear little relationship to the actual stats for a motorhome..

Many of the mandatory fields are filled in by the lazy clerk holding down a key, a '5' or a '9' seem to be the most popular for some reason, instead of checking the source document for the actual figure.
A Cert was once shown to me which had about nine '5's (555555555) for the Max Engine Net Power, definitely more than a Jumbo Jet.
For the same reason, the figure '1' is often used for the GVW and the figure '2' for the number of seats.
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 ·  Posted: 08.05.2018  ·  #104
Just had a quick look through it, What category of vehicle are ye using? I don't see Motorhome on the list.
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 ·  Posted: 08.05.2018  ·  #105
I used Private Car.
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 ·  Posted: 08.05.2018  ·  #106
I finalised application and got an acknowledgement to it.
1) I forwarded a copy photo of the certificate. I hope that is sufficient.
2) for category of vehicle I put down ‘light commercial vehicle’ . Must wait and see now.
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 ·  Posted: 09.05.2018  ·  #107
They seem to be going mainly on date of first reg co2 emmisions don't seem important , still waiting on mine , confirmation on 19/04 dispatch 30/04 heading to France on 15/05 so expect to use confirmation as having disk , and I really don't expect anyone will ever check it unless I'm in a city centre
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 ·  Posted: 09.05.2018  ·  #108
As far as i can ascertain they go by th engine type. As stated previously anything up to 2005 approx is euro 3 standard therefore category 4. Euro 4 engine is category 3 Euro 5 category 2. Etc etc. this is for France For diesel engines
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 ·  Posted: 09.05.2018  ·  #109
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As far as i can ascertain they go by th engine type. As stated previously anything up to 2005 approx is euro 3 standard therefore category 4. Euro 4 engine is category 3 Euro 5 category 2. Etc etc. this is for France For diesel engines


Year of manufacture and fuel type the key parameters, it's about particulate emissions, not CO2. Whatever about climate change, CO2 is a clear odourless gas that poses no immediate health threat to humans in open spaces.
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 ·  Posted: 14.05.2018  ·  #110
Sticker finally arrived today ordered 19/4 about 4 weeks so don't leave it to last minute
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 ·  Posted: 14.05.2018  ·  #111
Just had a look at the Umwelt zone for Düsseldorf, the Aire is just within the green zone and my van only got a yellow sticker. It appears that I will be able to get to the Caravan Salon but not park at the Aire to have a look at the city.
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 ·  Posted: 15.05.2018  ·  #112
Sticker arrived this morning, 2 weeks or thereabouts since I applied.
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 ·  Posted: 15.05.2018  ·  #113
Anyone in France at the moment using the clean air sticker ,is there any difficulty , anyone even query them,?
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 ·  Posted: 15.05.2018  ·  #114
Application on 4th May, sticker arrived this morning.
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 ·  Posted: 15.05.2018  ·  #115
We are not long back from France. As you might expect there is not much evidence of french vehicles displaying a Crit air sticker. However the list of places subject to the regulation is growing and a recent french newspaper article quoted figures of prosecutions in the Paris area.

My view is that it is being rolled out slowly to avoid french resistance to it, and as a foreigner I feel it is sensible to comply, especially as it is a one time purchase of less than €5. The effect will only be felt when restrictions are applied due to a spike in pollution.

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 ·  Posted: 15.05.2018  ·  #116
I don’t bother driving in the large cities in France any more, just park outside and use the scooter. I have my sticker just in case.
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 ·  Posted: 15.05.2018  ·  #117
Although the sticker was first introduced in 3 large cities, it has been rolled out to cover whole geographical areas or departments as can be seen here.

https://www.crit-air.fr/en/inf…zones.html

This has implications, albeit likely to be exceptional, in terms of driving from say Atlantic Spain (San Sebastion for example) to Cherbourg. Your route may cross 4 Crit air zones. It remains to be seen how this might be policed, but for the sake of €5 it seems prudent to be as prepared as possible.

One further piece of information, if you try and move or remove the sticker, it is designed to come away in an unusable state and apparently the word VOID appears on the remains of the sticker.

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 ·  Posted: 18.05.2018  ·  #118
Quote by Davy

Although the sticker was first introduced in 3 large cities, it has been rolled out to cover whole geographical areas or departments as can be seen here.

https://www.crit-air.fr/en/inf…zones.html

This has implications, albeit likely to be exceptional, in terms of driving from say Atlantic Spain (San Sebastion for example) to Cherbourg. Your route may cross 4 Crit air zones. It remains to be seen how this might be policed, but for the sake of €5 it seems prudent to be as prepared as possible.

One further piece of information, if you try and move or remove the sticker, it is designed to come away in an unusable state and apparently the word VOID appears on the remains of the sticker.

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Is it not euro 29.95?
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 ·  Posted: 18.05.2018  ·  #119
No. It is currently €4.41 see here,

https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/en/demande-ext/cgu

There are other websites which will apply for you and charge a large sum for that service. Rather like the semi fraudulent sites which will apply on your behalf for passports, visas, EHICs etc.

Go to the french government site and apply. It is straight forward.

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 ·  Posted: 18.05.2018  ·  #120
I got one direct from the French site.
3.08 vat 0.62 abmin/postage 1.10
Total € 4.80. Class 4.

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