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· Posted: 10.05.2013 · #1

Rosslare to Cherbourg. 18 hrs crossing. How do I keep my grup cold in the fridge this July.
Is it common practise to keep the gas on when mid seas to France. Dont want my stuff going off if its too warm down in the car deck.
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· Posted: 10.05.2013 · #2

I was on that crossing last year (and will be this July) and left my fridge on, as nobody told us otherwise.

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· Posted: 10.05.2013 · #3

I leave mine on gas on celtic link;on irish ferries you can plug in but you have to be quick as theres not to many plugs

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· Posted: 10.05.2013 · #4

We use a cool box and plug it in when in the cabin great for keeping the wine and beer cool when on site or travelling and keeps the fridge clear.

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· Posted: 10.05.2013 · #5

Last year we filled two 2lt milk bottles with water and froze them in the deep freeze at home and put them in the motorhome fridge for the crossing and they still had ice in them when we got to France, you probably could do the same with milk, meat etc.

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· Posted: 10.05.2013 · #6

We have never used the hookup on the boat but I have seen a few doing it.
If the fridge is well chilled prior to crossing and the door not opened the food would stay cool enought anyway.

We usually take enough basics to do us and stop for shopping before arriving at the first Aire / site.

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· Posted: 10.05.2013 · #7

I always leave mine on as no one ever asks me to switch it off apart from Belfast to Cairnryan. I can't understand why they do and the others don't.

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· Posted: 10.05.2013 · #8

Last year at Rosslare and again at Cherbourg was asked if gas was turned off, this is a safety measure, please note its not just another H & S rule, leaking gas line + spark = explosion, wouldn't want to be onboard that vessel.

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· Posted: 10.05.2013 · #9

one explosion and it does not matter whats in your fridge, it will go off , ice blocks are the best answer or EHU ( not reliable though ) I usually stock up in France you will be stopping for wine etc ..anyway

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· Posted: 11.05.2013 · #10

It`s a bit worrying to know that motor homers actually keep their gas on when on the ferry.
as Celtic link are sponsors of this forum and offer us great discount compared to the other ferry operators should they not be advised that this is happening and passengers are potentially being put in danger just because someone wants to keep their milk cold.

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· Posted: 11.05.2013 · #11

From Altea, north of Benidorm......came over at end of April with Irish Ferries. We always plug in when making the crossing as our fridge is always full and freezer always full of meat from our local butcher.

When boarding just put your hazard lights on and request hook-up. We have never failed to get hook-up over the last number of years.

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· Posted: 12.05.2013 · #12

i have traveled many times over the last 25 years to France including land bridge and i cannot recall ever been asked to turn my gas off,if i was i would do so,so maybe someone from the ferrie company's could clarify what is the proper procedure for us all,maybe its written down on your boarding pass or some where on the ship but i have never seen it,any one out there can help?

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· Posted: 12.05.2013 · #13

I turn ours off but only because it was always drilled into us when we used the euro tunnel.

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· Posted: 12.05.2013 · #14

Have asked Celtic Link to respond to this.

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· Posted: 12.05.2013 · #15

Gas Cylinders ( Butane and Propane)

Each vehicle is allowed a maximum of 47kgs of gas (about 4 cylinders) . The gas flow must be shut off at the cylinders when the vehicle is on the ship. The cylinders must be adequately secured against movement and stored away from sources of ignition and heat

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· Posted: 12.05.2013 · #16

Nice one Dan, all your time online isn't wasted then.

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· Posted: 12.05.2013 · #17

Except for the porn

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· Posted: 12.05.2013 · #19

Well guys I must say I'm confused by all this. I know a guy who works in H&W ship section and he has a Motorhome and when I talke.d to him about turning off the gas to the fridge on a crossing he said its a load of cods wobble and he never does it as there is no reason to do so and there's absolutely no danger. That's why I've left mine on. Who is fooling who I ask myself?

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· Posted: 12.05.2013 · #20

I wonder did he work on the Titanic ?

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· Posted: 12.05.2013 · #21

Nah he's not that old but he is a designer and I would say he knows what he is talking about.

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· Posted: 12.05.2013 · #22

I'm really surprised at some of the replies here. Have been crossing to France from Rosslare for many years and always been asked to turn off gas. Have used most of the ports in Ireland and have always been asked to turn off the gas. ............so........why me? Portsmouth to Santander,same, Newcastle to Kristinsand in Norway,same. Anyway I've simply asked for h/u on checkin and have found it ok.

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· Posted: 13.05.2013 · #23

Jack and all following this thread, designer, your mate may be, but common sense dictates we are all at the mercy of human beings, how do we know who tightened if indeed at all or how well the gas pipe runs is it subject to wear by abrasion against another part of the MH. We've all experienced how well MH's are built or not. Finally we all wear seat belts and those who ride bikes wear helmets hoping they're never needed but hey! we wear them anyway.

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· Posted: 13.05.2013 · #24

We are on the ferry this weekend -- not too comforting to know that some on here leave their gas on and fridge running. May not be much chance of a leak/fire- but if it happened the consequences could be disastrous for all on board. Wouldn't want that on my head. As someone else said , a few freezer blocks or similar are all that is required to keep things cool for the whole crossing.

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #25

Surely 18 hours on a ferry and quite a number of motorhomes on board the issue would also be the carbon monoxide produced..
The car decks are normally quite warm so fridge running quite often.
The Car decks were probably not designed with ventilation for for items producing carbon monoxide running whilst on route..
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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #26

most car decks have a gale blowing through them !

i have been dealing with fire issues most of my adult life and gas is a major threat whatever the source.
the biggest fire risk is gas being on board not whether on or off.

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #27

One thing you have to bear in mind in al of this discussion, the ferries carry a large number of vehicles and there are a large number of the cars that are carried which run on petrol which is a highly combustable liquid, therefore there is a risk of fire/explosions from that. I think the ferry companies are well aware of it no matter what the material is and have carried out the necessary health and safety assesments to ensure a safe journey.

I think I read somewhere about the fire prevention systems on ships and they use an inert gas to fight fires onboard by sealing the deck area concerned which helps to minimise the risk.

Also as bob has said most car decks have a gale blowing through them, I know the Celtic Link ship did because our car ws soaking wet when we went to disembark and this would dispell most gas vapours again reducing the risk.

If I was asked to turn off my gas I would, but I have never been except on the Euro tunnel.

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #28

I have been asked once to turn my gas off which I did without question. All the other times nobody said anything so I left it on. On the Tunnell you must turn off the gas which I do. If it is so important as far as ferries are concerned then they should check that the gas is off.

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #29

Do Propane tanks explode?

Click Here for the answer

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #30

Propane tanks do not explode. They do not implode and nor do they rupture or come apart on their own. In fact, bringing a propane tank to the point of "explosion" is a tremendously difficult and time consuming task that's not as simple as most people think. Many people believe that a propane tank "explosion" can occur with the slightest of ease. This is not the case whatsoever and people should understand that a propane tank, operating under normal circumstances will not explode or rupture. Safety devices and mechanisms are in place to prevent explosions, accidents and propane tank ruptures or breaches. Just like any other hazardous material or activity, human error is a primary factor in preventing or contributing to any type of accident, however serious in nature.

http://www.propane101.com/explodingpropanetanks.htm

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #31

everything is about minimising risk.....
fire needs oxygen, fuel and heat, take one of these away and there is no fire, thats the principle of fighting fires too.

oxygen is in the air on the boat and cant be removed
gas(fuel) is onboard vans and cant be removed
heat is the pilot or low flame required to operate gas fridge so this is how the risk can be minimised.

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #32

the ferry companies have greatly reduced their insurance premiums by making people switch of their gas,

they know rightly it wont really make a blind bit of difference as there are many other hazards onboard.

imagine a badly maintained vehicle where a fuel pipe is leaking onto a hot exhaust?????????????
god knows what chemicals etc there are being carried onboard.

fact is ferry companies would prefer you switched gas off

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #33

If ferry companies prefer we switch and its such a Hassard to travel with it on, the they should like the folk at the Channel,Tunnel check it. I personally don't believe it's such as Hassard as some folk on the forum are making out.

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #34

Hope i`m not on the ferry if you find out you are wrong, simple precautions don`t cost anything

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #35

Never ever leave it on gas, ask them and they will let you plug it in and if not then boost it to full power before hand and keep the door closed and it should be good for 24 hrs

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #36

Quote by Dan and Bob

Hope i`m not on the ferry if you find out you are wrong, simple precautions don`t cost anything

Us neither

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #37

Folks all I'm saying is that if it is as dangerous as folk here is saying it is, why are the ferry companies not checking as the Channel Tunnel folk do that it's off? After all they check our boarding cards, look if we have anyone hidden in the loo and lots of other things but never a mention of gas being on or off.m

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· Posted: 14.05.2013 · #38

Jack all it takes is one problem. We cant continually push the responsibility on to someone else, We have to take responsibility for our actions and in doing so consider the safety of others.
The next thing Alley will want to light fires on the car deck,so bring some sticks.

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· Posted: 15.05.2013 · #39

Quote by Dan and Bob

The next thing Alley will want to light fires on the car deck,so bring some sticks.

Only as long as we can have a singalong also.

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· Posted: 15.05.2013 · #40

Celtic link terms and conditions.. common sense too..

viii) No more than 3 gas cylinders (25lb / 11.2kg) may be carried and these should be adequately secured against movement of the ship with the supply shut off at the cylinders during the voyage. Leaking and inadequately secured or connected cylinders will be refused shipment.[img][/img]
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