Supplies from China?

I understand your thought process Jack. But do you really believe China should be held responsible for a disease that originated there. Ebola originated in Africa. If a new strain of that emerged, one to which we had zero immunity, would that be Africa’s fault. Most of the countries on the planet are scrambling to get their hands on these items. Do you really believe thousands of people should be working for nothing, to give them away to us. Frankly I’m disappointed that you feel like that.

If one of your friends has a cold and you catch it , do you charge him for your paracetamol ??

The same question occurred to me too. I expected this crisis , and China’s success in tackling it, might have spurned the central communist party to mandate the production of PPE and ventilators for global aid distribution. But China’s bǎo miànzi (saving face), probably means that will never happen. They’re too proud to admit their errors. I’ll bet calls will come for that type of thing eventually. I don’t mean to suggest there will be some kind of German style war reparations imposed on the Chinese, but by God their wet markets will be under global scrutiny and hopefully they will be pressurized to reform. This has been warned about for decades.

Italy is making a global plea for 300 doctors. China could have answered that call at the very least.

I don’t think you understand where I am coming from David. There will be all kinds of recriminations when this is over. Employers who forced their workers to come in unnecessarily could have blood on their hands. Spanish Nursing home employees who walked out and left their inhabitants to die. Trump pulling out of global pandemic funding initiatives. And China’s wet markets. This is a global problem for sure. If China can help the world, now is the time to do it.

I really don’t want to get into this. Just want to say... China is helping. It’s providing millions of pieces of PPE, when nobody else can.

How can anyone argue with that ,and sure as long as we get the goods forget about that thing that consumes humans. (Money)

Really have to agree with Daffy you cannot blame China for what is happening because COVID 19 originated there. They still have the virus, all be it is pretty much under control, so the fact they have sent supplies is contributing to helping. If I'm not wrong I think they have sent medical staff, ventilators, masks etc.to italy as well.

It seems to me that in this day and age, it is all too easy to conflate criticism of a country, who’s inhabitants may be of a different skin tone to you, with racism. That’s unfortunate and it stifles discussion. If the Coronavirus began in France, because of the way they run their markets, and I criticized that, could I be accused of racism? Of course not. We are all white Europeans, ourselves and the French. But if it’s China, then you can’t make the same criticism?

My critique has nothing to do with racism. I visited China back in 2000. It was an amazing experience that I will never forget. The people, the food, the culture, the sprawling cities. They were building skyscrapers like you would never believe. If felt so safe. No crime. That’s what socialism achieves. But even back then, there were running jokes about the live markets, pathogens and global pandemics amongst us westerners.

I don’t blame China. That’s an entire country. I’m blaming how the food markets operate.

We will all have much time on our hands over the coming weeks,let us all debate and stay friends.
None of us need enemies at this time, and this will maybe be our lifeline to sanity.

Well said. I’m done with this topic

We’ll leave it here for tonight folks.
This is a sensitive thing, opinions differ.