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Posted: 17.06.2018  ·  #1
Stuck in carlingford marina clutch has gone in van ,fluid pissing out underneath eather a seal or pipe has gone waiting on the aa coming out hope to get towed home if it can’t be fixed on the spot 😫🚐


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Posted: 17.06.2018  ·  #2
Hope they can fix it for you.


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Posted: 17.06.2018  ·  #3
If you can't be towed, I would say the the lads would give you safe parking in the boat yard until you made your own arrangements or repairs. Sounds like the clutch fluid pipe has burst or the seals on the slave cylinders have poped. Either ways any local mechanic should be able to repair on site with parts.
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Posted: 17.06.2018  ·  #4
how quick to repair on site will depend on the type of clutch cylinder fitted if thatswhats leaking, some are exterior some are internal with the clutch hope you get mobile quickly!


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Posted: 17.06.2018  ·  #5
Bummer. Hope you get sorted easily.


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Posted: 17.06.2018  ·  #6
Hope you get your van sorted and get on the road soon


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Posted: 17.06.2018  ·  #7
Bad news...hope you get it sorted soon.


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Posted: 17.06.2018  ·  #8
Got it home we had to take a taxi from carlingford £90.00 aa got the truck must say paddy was great was going to tow it down the yard and put it in with the boats on till I could get it fixed but luckily my son is a member os the aa so after 5 hours the lorry arrived and she’s home
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Posted: 17.06.2018  ·  #9
That looks like a fairly new van. Is it still under warranty?


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Posted: 17.06.2018  ·  #10
That was a lucky one with the AA, I always thought (and was told) they wouldn't cover a camper, made sure as hell I got roadside assistance from the insurance to be safe! Anyway hope it's an easy fix


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Posted: 17.06.2018  ·  #11
So glad to see that you are home. It's scary seeing your own motorhome on the back of a recovery truck.
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Posted: 18.06.2018  ·  #12
Quote by Mark&Wendy

That looks like a fairly new van. Is it still under warranty?


She’s 2007 so Somthing got to go wrong sometime I’m just clad it didn’t happen when we were touring Ireland two weeks ago


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Posted: 18.06.2018  ·  #13
You van was just trying to extend your weekend, you should have listen to her :D


Glad to hear that you got it sorted though, there are some repairs that unfortunately can't be done on the spot and you're better off going to a mechanic.

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Posted: 19.06.2018  ·  #14
Looks like the gearbox has to come out to get the slave cylinder out unless anyone knows how to get it out without taking the box of
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Posted: 19.06.2018  ·  #15
No, interior slave cylinder, gearbox out I’m afraid.
Check full clutch/flywheel Assy when out......
Any good mechanic will have that out and sorted in a day no problem.


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Agreed about the clutch/flywheel, when its out consider a change if there is any significant wear as it will save you in the long run


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Posted: 19.06.2018  ·  #17
Cheers folks looks like I’m going to have a lot of work ahead of me will definitely check the clutch but with only 27.000 miles I’d like to think it would be ok


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Posted: 19.06.2018  ·  #18
thats a bummer hilton9, the problem you have is most of the work to replace the slave cylinder is also the same as the clutch so with the gearbox out i would strongly consider replacing the clutch i know you said about the low mileage but you would kick yourself if after a few weeks the clutch packed in!


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Posted: 20.06.2018  ·  #19
Will give it a look over probably will go down that road 👍


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Posted: 20.06.2018  ·  #20
As you say ,low mileage on the clutch and you and the mechanic will not doubt examine it and decide to refit or not,but I would put a new thrust bearing in ,for what they cost and the trouble to strip out if it failed in the future .


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As you say ,low mileage on the clutch and you and the mechanic will not doubt examine it and decide to refit or not,but I would put a new thrust bearing in ,for what they cost and the trouble to strip out if it failed in the future .


Also consider a new slave cylinder rather then a repair kit.


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Posted: 21.06.2018  ·  #22
Would not use a repair kit ,will check the thrust bearing ,after checking what type of slave cylinder,wait for this, fiat van Iveco engine ford slave cylinder how do you win I spent hours looking up fiat only to discover it’s a ford part


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I spent hours looking up fiat only to discover it’s a ford part


On a 2.3 Multijet? Didn't realise Fiat raided the Iveco/Ford parts bin.

The old X230 2.8JTDs are the best of the Ducato series IMO :-)


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Posted: 01.07.2018  ·  #24
At long last gearbox out slave cylinder of ,going to need a new clutch plate as well for a van with only 27.000 miles there’s loads of wear in the clutch
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Hi hillton9,
Just coming into the thread now, as I have been offline. Hope you get sorted. Are you doing the work yourself? Looks complex.
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Posted: 02.07.2018  ·  #26
Not to bad just a bit hard to split the box surprisingly very few bolts but of it came getting the new parts today hope to have it back togeather by the weekend 🤞


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Gearbox back in at long last new clutch sleeve cylinder just a few more bits to put on ie air filter pipes and a few cables bleed the clutch and hopefully on the road again opps forgot mot as well 🚐😁


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Gearbox back in at long last new clutch sleeve cylinder just a few more bits to put on ie air filter pipes and a few cables bleed the clutch and hopefully on the road again oops forgot mot as well 🚐😁


I am told to advise you, not to use a pressure bleeder


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Hi splinter can you give me a bit more information on that ,and the reason for not using a pressure bleeder


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Posted: 06.07.2018  ·  #30
Pressure bleeders on a Bellow’s type slave cylinder release bearing can be a problem.
The reason is that during bleeding the bearing needs to be pressed firmly against the pressure plate fingers to expel all the air. Pressure type bleeders can force air into the bellows and expel fluid via the bleeder but the air is trapped in front. When you close the nipple and release the pedal the air is forced back up the pipe and you have little or no clutch force.

Bleeding those can be problematic, we’ve found the following to work best.... 2 persons required.

1. Fill the master cylinder, do not ‘pump the clutch up’ ...

2. Open nipple, press pedal firmly to the floor and hold, close nipple. Release pedal (you may have to pull pedal up by hand)

3. Repeat as in 2, and keep master cylinder topped up.

4. When clutch begins to firm up then pump it up hard and release nipple while holding it down.

They can be a real PITA to get all air expelled, but this method works best.

Hope it all works out for you and you’re on the road soon again.


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Posted: 06.07.2018  ·  #31
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Hi splinter can you give me a bit more information on that, and the reason for not using a pressure bleeder


Sorry, Rob I just logged in, but you got the answer from JJf. The old and trusted method, that's what apprenticeships were for, you needed someone to blame when it took so long to bleed a clutch or a complete brake system.


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Cheers splinter gravity is a wonderful thing was able to bleed it myself all back togeather again test run all good mot mon or tue as the bloke who helped me put it togeather again works in the mot center and got me a slot back on the road again 🚐😁


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Posted: 06.07.2018  ·  #33
Well done great job you are now the official Fiat Clutch and gearbox advisor :D ;-)


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