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Posted: 07.06.2019  ·  #41
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About 6 weeks, their new to Halfords so I took the gamble they may be the Yuasa efb ones but no way of knowing, I just wasn't going near AGMs again


Fair enough, too soon to tell the real world performance then. The fact that they're new to Halfords supports the rebadged L36-EFB which also seems to be newly launched.


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Posted: 07.06.2019  ·  #42
The insight in this piece probably finishes off any interest I had in AGM's

http://www.aandncaravanservices.co.uk/agm-batteries.php

For shits and giggles I might just confirm the alternator output voltage and the mains charger output voltage this evening but it's looking like a choice between Varta LFD90 and Halfords HLB700, AGM's are a waste of time if they won't charge properly. The solar regulator has an AGM charge mode but the time you'll need to get the most out of the battery is when solar won't really deliver.


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Posted: 07.06.2019  ·  #43
I have 3 x Varta LFD90's - best batteries I have owned.


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Posted: 08.06.2019  ·  #44
I recently replaced 100ah Banner energy Bull with Yuasa L36 EFB.

Those banners, and from what I read most of them; require regular topping up. This caught me out early days.

The L36 EFB are fully sealed so that problem is gone. Too soon to comment on performance, and anyway I also fitted another 160W solar and an MPPT reg so hard to do a comparison to the banners.


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The Banners require regular topping up but still a very good battery


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Posted: 08.06.2019  ·  #46
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The Banners require regular topping up but still a very good battery


Mine were ok, but they wouldn't touch the Varta's.


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Posted: 16.08.2019  ·  #47
The Varta LFD are a good price on tayna. Im wondering if there is a disadvantage in getting a 230 amp/hr battery rather than two of 115 each?...(rather than the obvious one that if the single battery fails your scuppered until replacement. There is a cost and a space advantage as well as the advantage that there can be no weaker battery to pull the stronger one down??


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Posted: 16.08.2019  ·  #48
Bosch and Varta are made in the same factory and are the same . No 1 batteries


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Posted: 16.08.2019  ·  #49
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The Varta LFD are a good price on tayna. Im wondering if there is a disadvantage in getting a 230 amp/hr battery rather than two of 115 each?...(rather than the obvious one that if the single battery fails your scuppered until replacement. There is a cost and a space advantage as well as the advantage that there can be no weaker battery to pull the stronger one down??


I can’t think of any disadvantage other than Will one fit in your Battery box?


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Posted: 16.08.2019  ·  #50
I wouldn't fancy trying to lift it in and eventually out of the van


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Posted: 16.08.2019  ·  #51
Apparently the more cells the better. Some folks even get 6 volt batteries purely so they can add more cells. I.E. 2 in series x2 then these blocks of two in parallel. More batteries =more cells


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Posted: 17.08.2019  ·  #52
Daffy do you know why more cells are supposed to be an advantage?


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Posted: 18.08.2019  ·  #53
Tbh, I have no proof at all that this is the case. In fact some people say that one big battery IS better. But based on what I read, it is down to cell degradation, in that, the 6 cells in a standard battery will suffer more degradation from a discharge, than say 24 cells would from 4 batteries for the same discharge. Over time this supposedly shortens the life of your single battery. Also all the points about weight, etc are valid, from my own experience of lugging batteries in and out of tight spaces


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Posted: 18.08.2019  ·  #54
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Apparently the more cells the better. Some folks even get 6 volt batteries purely so they can add more cells. I.E. 2 in series x2 then these blocks of two in parallel. More batteries =more cells


I might be mixing this up a bit as it was a while ago and the man that told me is well known for talking bull.

He said his father's house solar installation in France used banks of 2volt batteries.


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Posted: 18.08.2019  ·  #55
I think it is as simple as exposing the most surface area of plate for a chemical reaction to occur, therefore the more the better.


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Posted: 18.08.2019  ·  #56
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Apparently the more cells the better. Some folks even get 6 volt batteries purely so they can add more cells. I.E. 2 in series x2 then these blocks of two in parallel. More batteries =more cells


:-/ :-/
A lead acid battery cell is 2.1v, when charged.
A 6v battery has three cells, a 12v battery has 6. If you have a 12v system it makes no difference if you use a 12v battery (6 X 2.1v cells) or 2 X 6v batteries in series (2 X 2.1v X 2)


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Posted: 18.08.2019  ·  #57
True. Why then the 6 volt batteries doubled, very common in America 🤔🤔


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Posted: 18.08.2019  ·  #58
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True. Why then the 6 volt batteries doubled, very common in America 🤔🤔


True deep cycle batteries are often 6v FOR EXAMPLE
If I had the space and the cash I'd certainly consider such beasts.


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When I was a wee apprentice I asked why do trucks have 2 big 6 volt batteries and the answer was the more lead the more power for longer.
A lot of years later when I bought a leisure battery for the van, I was advised to get the heaviest one I could fit in for the very same reason the more lead the better.


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When I was a wee apprentice I asked why do trucks have 2 big 6 volt batteries and the answer was the more lead the more power for longer.
A lot of years later when I bought a leisure battery for the van, I was advised to get the heaviest one I could fit in for the very same reason the more lead the better.

Maybe I forgot what I read, and it was the more lead the better, not the more cells 🙄😬


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Posted: 18.08.2019  ·  #61
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When I was a wee apprentice I asked why do trucks have 2 big 6 volt batteries and the answer was the more lead the more power for longer.
A lot of years later when I bought a leisure battery for the van, I was advised to get the heaviest one I could fit in for the very same reason the more lead the better.

Maybe I forgot what I read, and it was the more lead the better, not the more cells 🙄😬


I would think that both are one in the same.


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On a completely separate issue Martin, hows the leg/foot


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On a completely separate issue Martin, hows the leg/foot


David. Its brilliant better then I expected, I'm booked in for Physio for the next month or ,don't have full movement in the ankle yet but I was in Achill for the last week and managed to walk 8k yesterday without the crutch close around the house and with around the place , very difficult to walk on the beach barefoot, but drove home today no problem ,foot up now having a glass ,listening to Martin Hayes on the rolling wave Rte1


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Great to hear, you’re up and about again. I’d say Susie is happy too, waiting on you hand and foot.


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Great to hear, you’re up and about again. I’d say Susie is happy too, waiting on you hand and foot.


Yeah, looking for Browney points for driving me for 9 weeks :o , not a mention of the previous 45 years I've been driving her or the 3hour sleep she had today on the way home . :-/ O-)


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Great to hear, you’re up and about again. I’d say Susie is happy too, waiting on you hand and foot.


Yeah, looking for Browney points for driving me for 9 weeks :o , not a mention of the previous 45 years I've been driving her or the 3hour sleep she had today on the way home . :-/ O-)

I’d be keeping them thoughts to me self if I were you 🤫😁


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I'm looking to buy an EA1000 Exide Premium Car Battery 017TE does anyone know will Tanya Batteries in the UK deliver to Ireland. great price with the exchange rate at the moment.


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Posted: 20.08.2019  ·  #68
They delivered mine Martin. Two Yuasa ones


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Delivered two to me a few months ago. Very well packaged and no problems. :up:


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Posted: 21.08.2019  ·  #70
I got two Jeep batteries off of them Martin but I think they charged €20 each delivery. Last year I got two leisure batteries from some Marine crowd and the Delivery was €10 ea.


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The price looked good, but the carriage was about £45. with staff discount, Ben can get one in Bray cheaper than that.
and as I have a test in the morning I'm going that way. while I was checking lights etc, yesterday the voltage dropped and it was slow to crank, so I put some pressure on it and after four-start stops in a row without letting it charge it dropped down to 10.4 volts, it was fitted in 2011 so it has had a good inning.


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The price looked good, but the carriage was about £45. with staff discount, Ben can get one in Bray cheaper than that.
and as I have a test in the morning I'm going that way. while I was checking lights etc, yesterday the voltage dropped and it was slow to crank, so I put some pressure on it and after four-start stops in a row without letting it charge it dropped down to 10.4 volts, it was fitted in 2011 so it has had a good inning.

I agree with you Martin, I’d go local even if it was a small bit dearer because if the Battery fails, getting a replacement is going to be grief from abroad, especially after brexit. Not to mention the cost involved.


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