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 ·  Posted: 18.05.2018  ·  #41
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Well, went for the CVRT during the week, and failed :(
Front brakes were 82.8% efficient so passed by a large margin to spare, BUT the tester said the discs were worn and they must be replaced. There was a bit of a ridge along the outside, but not that big, so there was a bit of wear.
On the way home from Spain six weeks ago I had no problems coping with 6% down gradients on sections of motorway :-/

I suspect I suffered from the high mileage HGV thought process being applied to my MH which only averages less than 10,000 km per year.



Ah, that sucks! But well... Easy to sort that out!
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 ·  Posted: 18.05.2018  ·  #42
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Well, went for the CVRT during the week, and failed :(
Front brakes were 82.8% efficient so passed by a large margin to spare, BUT the tester said the discs were worn and they must be replaced. There was a bit of a ridge along the outside, but not that big, so there was a bit of wear.
On the way home from Spain six weeks ago I had no problems coping with 6% down gradients on sections of motorway :-/

I suspect I suffered from the high mileage HGV thought process being applied to my MH which only averages less than 10,000 km per year.


Don't only apply to High Mileage Colin, they knocked our rear brake discs this year with only 27000 miles, They said they were rusty, we hadn't used it in a while, they also knocked the windscreen which had a small crack only 6'' long from the left bottom corner.
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 ·  Posted: 18.05.2018  ·  #43
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Well, went for the CVRT during the week, and failed :(
Front brakes were 82.8% efficient so passed by a large margin to spare, BUT the tester said the discs were worn and they must be replaced. There was a bit of a ridge along the outside, but not that big, so there was a bit of wear.
On the way home from Spain six weeks ago I had no problems coping with 6% down gradients on sections of motorway :-/

I suspect I suffered from the high mileage HGV thought process being applied to my MH which only averages less than 10,000 km per year.


Don't only apply to High Mileage Colin, they knocked our rear brake discs this year with only 27000 miles, They said they were rusty, we hadn't used it in a while, they also knocked the windscreen which had a small crack only 6'' long from the left bottom corner.


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 ·  Posted: 18.05.2018  ·  #44
Easiest job to do. But put new pads in at the same time. Shop around for some quality discs and pads.
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 ·  Posted: 18.05.2018  ·  #45
That’s just wrong. I swear to f%^k this country is getting completely bogged down. Red tape and cover your own arse is the only show in town. Making you spend money for nothing
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 ·  Posted: 18.05.2018  ·  #46
The brake disc one has been around for about 2 years.
Instead of measuring the thickness of the brake disc, testers are opting to check the lip on the outside of the disc by using their fingers and examining the the surface for pitting.
The local lathe shop is flat out spinning brake disc.
It is a soft fail that that the rsa roadside inspection boys have been using for years.
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 ·  Posted: 18.05.2018  ·  #47
Speaking of discs & pads,
I replaced discs and pads on MH and the 2 cars in the last year or so,
All replaced with mintex discs & pads,
I have noticed that the black dust is a lot more on the alloys than it was before i changed the discs & pads,

Has anybody noticed that or is it just me
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 ·  Posted: 18.05.2018  ·  #48
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Well, went for the CVRT during the week, and failed :(
Front brakes were 82.8% efficient so passed by a large margin to spare, BUT the tester said the discs were worn and they must be replaced. There was a bit of a ridge along the outside, but not that big, so there was a bit of wear.
On the way home from Spain six weeks ago I had no problems coping with 6% down gradients on sections of motorway :-/

I suspect I suffered from the high mileage HGV thought process being applied to my MH which only averages less than 10,000 km per year.


Don't only apply to High Mileage Colin, they knocked our rear brake discs this year with only 27000 miles, They said they were rusty, we hadn't used it in a while, they also knocked the windscreen which had a small crack only 6'' long from the left bottom corner.


The fail threshold is below 55% performance, a performance reading of over 82% should indicate all is ok, end of.

What reading did yours give, rust an all? Rust on discs is usually only superficial and after a few miles will get cleaned off, which is why I go to a CVRT centre about 20 miles away and not the one just down the road.
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 ·  Posted: 18.05.2018  ·  #49
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Easiest job to do. But put new pads in at the same time. Shop around for some quality discs and pads.


Mister Auto, Bosch or Ferodo two discs and four pads, less than €150

Got Bosch discs and pads all round for my car a few years ago and a DM flywheel and clutch. Really good prices and fast delivery.
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 ·  Posted: 19.05.2018  ·  #50
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Speaking of discs & pads,
I replaced discs and pads on MH and the 2 cars in the last year or so,
All replaced with mintex discs & pads,
I have noticed that the black dust is a lot more on the alloys than it was before i changed the discs & pads,

Has anybody noticed that or is it just me


Had the same problem with Mintex pads on my x-trail. Changed back to genuine Nissan and no dust.
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 ·  Posted: 19.05.2018  ·  #51
the rust failure i think refers to rust on the edge of the disc and also the other non pad area of the disc, the argument being the intergity of the steel is compromised.
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 ·  Posted: 20.05.2018  ·  #52
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the rust failure i think refers to rust on the edge of the disc and also the other non pad area of the disc, the argument being the intergity of the steel is compromised.


I wonder?? If you sandblast the discs , paint and skim the working surfaces with a lathe they cant be knocked for rust and it is still the same metal.
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 ·  Posted: 20.05.2018  ·  #53
Like many in this thread, mine is due for the test shortly. I'm wondering, in general, are there some centres that are more understanding of motorhomes than others. I'm sort of thinking, if I go to one that does mainly HGV's, will they be a bit challenged when they see a motorhome coming in?
Dublin based so open to suggestions of a centre that's used to dealing with motorhomes.
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 ·  Posted: 20.05.2018  ·  #54
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the rust failure i think refers to rust on the edge of the disc and also the other non pad area of the disc, the argument being the intergity of the steel is compromised.


I wonder?? If you sandblast the discs , paint and skim the working surfaces with a lathe they cant be knocked for rust and it is still the same metal.


Surface rust is just that, rust on the surface. If the integrity of the good steel underneath is compromised I'm never getting on a ship again.
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 ·  Posted: 20.05.2018  ·  #55
Two years ago a mate of mine running a hgv, passed his doe test on the last appointment of a the day. After returning home ,reloaded for the next morning, he left everything on the kitchen table. During the evening his wife tidy everything away and the next morning at 4.30 am he set off on his trip, but without his doe pass cert and disc.
Some hour later he was stopped at a rsa checkpoint, and explained as to why he hadn't a doe cert, etc. The rsa officer in charge said not to worry as they would test the vehicle on the spot. After about 30 minutes my mate was informed that he would need a tow truck to move him. There was cracks in his front brake discs.
After been towed back to the main dealer that prepared the truck for the test, the front disc were removed and examined, a small blemish was found on the surface of one disc. This was sent away for metal ultrasound testing which confirmed the integrity of the metal. However the rsa would not accept this testing and the truck could only be released onto the road after a new disc was fitted.
I am based in Laois about an hour south of Dublin which is very popular with rsa inspections.
The net result now in our area, is that if any brake disc looks less than newish, most mechanics remove them and send them out for a light skim in a lathe workshop.
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 ·  Posted: 21.05.2018  ·  #56
Well lads... the day has come, tomorrow would be my "D" day. See how the good auld girl does with the test. I've done as much as I could with the obvious things but after going out this last weekend I started to feel like there's a few things I should have done.

But then again, knowing myself, I'll end up replacing every bolt on the van and get failed by the only thing I didn't check. So that's it, I prefer the lads to tell me exactly what I need to do and go from there (if any).

Wish me luck!!!!
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 ·  Posted: 21.05.2018  ·  #57
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Two years ago a mate of mine running a hgv, passed his doe test on the last appointment of a the day. After returning home ,reloaded for the next morning, he left everything on the kitchen table. During the evening his wife tidy everything away and the next morning at 4.30 am he set off on his trip, but without his doe pass cert and disc.
Some hour later he was stopped at a rsa checkpoint, and explained as to why he hadn't a doe cert, etc. The rsa officer in charge said not to worry as they would test the vehicle on the spot. After about 30 minutes my mate was informed that he would need a tow truck to move him. There was cracks in his front brake discs.
After been towed back to the main dealer that prepared the truck for the test, the front disc were removed and examined, a small blemish was found on the surface of one disc. This was sent away for metal ultrasound testing which confirmed the integrity of the metal. However the rsa would not accept this testing and the truck could only be released onto the road after a new disc was fitted.
I am based in Laois about an hour south of Dublin which is very popular with rsa inspections.
The net result now in our area, is that if any brake disc looks less than newish, most mechanics remove them and send them out for a light skim in a lathe workshop.
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 ·  Posted: 22.05.2018  ·  #58
Well... it was a FAIL, no surprises there but actually not by much.

There's a bit of rust on the panel underneath the door, where there's now a hole sponsored by the CVRT technician that has to be fix.

And the other thing is lower ball joint with too much play, which is handy enough for me to replace.

So, I'll have to get that metal repaired, replace the ball joint and spend some more time and money on the test. Luckily it's not too bad to be honest. So we'll see how it goes...
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 ·  Posted: 22.05.2018  ·  #59
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Like many in this thread, mine is due for the test shortly. I'm wondering, in general, are there some centres that are more understanding of motorhomes than others. I'm sort of thinking, if I go to one that does mainly HGV's, will they be a bit challenged when they see a motorhome coming in?
Dublin based so open to suggestions of a centre that's used to dealing with motorhomes.


im in Rush sean, and i go to kavanaghs just off the m1 in Duleek/Drogheda. Always found them good to deal with. Mine is due in July, but i think I will get it done next month as Im heading away in July.
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 ·  Posted: 28.05.2018  ·  #60
Booked in for tomorrow, here's hoping we're good to go for the weekend.
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 ·  Posted: 29.05.2018  ·  #61
Finally I can say that I've passed the test! Right on time for my holidays too :)

As I mentioned, I got failed on the first time due to a worn ball joint and some rust underneath the door. Got those sorted and the re-test was handy enough, took me about 20' and of course the re-test money.

Happy out anyways for another 12 months.
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 ·  Posted: 29.05.2018  ·  #62
Just like RTV I've now got some holes in the body. Failed on rust on the chassis too and I'll need an engineers report on the repair.
Can anyone point me in the direction of an engineer who signs off on chassis repairs?
There's an RSA Modifications report template to complete.

I got a fail on the lights too, he said I'd be ok with beam benders, I didn't notice that I only had one beam bender on, no idea where/when the other one went.
Like a few more of you, I went down on the service brake too.
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 ·  Posted: 29.05.2018  ·  #63
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Just like RTV I've now got some holes in the body. Failed on rust on the chassis too and I'll need an engineers report on the repair.
Can anyone point me in the direction of an engineer who signs off on chassis repairs?


There's an RSA Modifications report template to complete.

There's an engineer advertising on donedealuk ,he's in the Cavan area maybe of help to you with the report for cvrt.
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 ·  Posted: 30.05.2018  ·  #64
D&M truck engineering based in Kilcullen co. Kildare.
They run a test center along with an engineering certification for vehicle repairs and modifications. While they may not do the work themselves but they do use use other local companies as sub contractors.
The thing with rust in a chassis is that the whole chassis needs to be checked and treated if necessary, otherwise you will be repairing a bit every year.
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 ·  Posted: 30.05.2018  ·  #65
Try Kearns and Murtagh in Dundalk phone 042-9321245. They have a test center and they were able to certify my van after I converted it to motorhome. For the conversion test they charged €90 while some some engineers are charging €150.
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 ·  Posted: 30.05.2018  ·  #66
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Just like RTV I've now got some holes in the body. Failed on rust on the chassis too and I'll need an engineers report on the repair.
Can anyone point me in the direction of an engineer who signs off on chassis repairs?
There's an RSA Modifications report template to complete.

I got a fail on the lights too, he said I'd be ok with beam benders, I didn't notice that I only had one beam bender on, no idea where/when the other one went.
Like a few more of you, I went down on the service brake too.


Oh crap, that's terrible!! But then again, it's one of those things that you definitely want to get sorted asap and definitely not a bad idea to go over the whole structure of the chassis to make sure you do it once and do it right.

Bit of a nightmare but at least you'll be well sorted at the end.
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 ·  Posted: 30.05.2018  ·  #67
Thanks for the suggestions, I've made a few phone calls and have a few more to make, but looks like I'm on the right track.
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