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Posted: 03.12.2017  ·  #1
Not sure which section to put this in but I was wondering if any of you out there have a drone to take Ariel pics? If so what kind do you have and I would appreciate any suggestions about the best one to buy with a camera.


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Posted: 03.12.2017  ·  #2
Hey jack, I've the dji phantom 3. It's bloody brilliant! Shoots in HD and has plenty of flying modes!


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Are those ones expensive ??


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€700-€800 new!


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Killiand, I see there’s differ t models in the Phantom 3 range and that’s what’s confusing me. I would probably go for a second hand one if I could find one.?


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Posted: 03.12.2017  ·  #6
Pretty sure this is the one I have - last years model, http://www.adverts.ie/12654953 and better priced!

And if you're down near kinnegad at all - you're more than welcome to have a fly!


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Posted: 03.12.2017  ·  #7
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€700-€800 new!


That’s not too bad at all. I may look into that.
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Posted: 03.12.2017  ·  #8
Jack, my father has several drones and is in a local flying club. They are always buying new models.
His most recent is called a mavic pro and I know he has a few other DJI models.
I can ask him if any of the members are selling at the moment and pass on contact info to you if there is anyone.


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The Mavics look class! Some
Serious tech in them at this stage!


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The Mavics look class! Some
Serious tech in them at this stage!


I know very little about them Killiand but I have seen the Mavic in action and was impressed. These guys are flying with fpv sometimes which is amazing.


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That's unreal, I'm still at the most basic of levels! Id say the fpv is spectacular!


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Posted: 03.12.2017  ·  #12
That would be super Mark if you could do that for me.


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I use the Parrot Bebop 2. Plenty of them available 2nd hand. They are pretty easy to fly and is fairly robust.


The Fpv on any of them is not as good as you might think. You are viewing a digital screen via a headset which although you are seeing what the Drone sees, it is still a digital image.

I have only used the headset occassionaly, the image looking directly at the screen is much better.


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Fpv is First Person View. Basically a headset that allows you to see what the Drone sees.


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Its all over my head :D


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I don't own one personally but used to fly drones all the time before to create media.

I've always stayed with DJI and the phamtom line, they're great quad-copters. And you can get one right now for much cheaper on ebay or amazon due to new models coming out on 2018. You'll be great with a phamtom 3 for sure and I'm pretty sure I've seen them for around the 500 euro mark on the sites mentioned above.

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I picked up a Xiaomi Mi Drone 4k from Gearbest in China. Worked out at €340 delivered and avoided customs. For the money it's an amazing machine with lots of cool features and very easy to fly. A lovely drone to capture those memories in the van. Fly responsibly!


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Id say a drone would also be handy for a farmer to check his cattle on a rainy day


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Id say a drone would also be handy for a farmer to check his cattle on a rainy day


For sure John, a few of them already using them to keep an eye on stock, especially in hard to reach mountain areas. Just remember you only get roughly 23 minutes before battery dies😨


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Id say a drone would also be handy for a farmer to check his cattle on a rainy day


On the TV last night, there was a farmers son in New Zealand checking and herding sheep with one.


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I wouldn't bring it out in the rain though


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I wouldn't bring it out in the rain though


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I picked up a Xiaomi Mi Drone 4k from Gearbest in China. Worked out at €340 delivered and avoided customs. For the money it's an amazing machine with lots of cool features and very easy to fly. A lovely drone to capture those memories in the van. Fly responsibly!


That sounds like great value, I'll check that out. Nice one :)


EDIT: Well... f**k me, I ended up ordering one for myself :P

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I wouldn't bring it out in the rain though


I was about to say that, quadcopters don't like water at all!!!

I only saw one model that was water proof but it was meant to be able to "land" on water (which effectively is not called land anymore but don't know the word for it :P ). But don't know how good would it be flying in rain though...

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That would be super Mark if you could do that for me.


I spoke to him earlier today and he said he will ask in the club. He knows one guy just sold a mavic.

He has a few which he might sell but you would need to have your own transmitter and then add a gopro. I didn't think that was what you were looking for.


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No Mark I’m looking for the complete thing really as I’m not really into this teck stuff. 😂


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I picked up a Xiaomi Mi Drone 4k from Gearbest in China. Worked out at €340 delivered and avoided customs. For the money it's an amazing machine with lots of cool features and very easy to fly. A lovely drone to capture those memories in the van. Fly responsibly!


That sounds like great value, I'll check that out. Nice one :)


EDIT: Well... f**k me, I ended up ordering one for myself :P

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I wouldn't bring it out in the rain though


I was about to say that, quadcopters don't like water at all!!!

I only saw one model that was water proof but it was meant to be able to "land" on water (which effectively is not called land anymore but don't know the word for it :P ). But don't know how good would it be flying in rain though...

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Ha! Impulse buying, sure you only live once! Make sure you get a good quality class 10 minimum micro sd. I think the max it takes at the moment is 64GB, a future firmware update may allow it to take a 128. A second battery is a must too IMO. I'm still waiting for my second one😤. It took two weeks for it to be delivered to me, but can take up to 5. Good luck with it!


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I picked up a Xiaomi Mi Drone 4k from Gearbest in China. Worked out at €340 delivered and avoided customs. For the money it's an amazing machine with lots of cool features and very easy to fly. A lovely drone to capture those memories in the van. Fly responsibly!


That sounds like great value, I'll check that out. Nice one :)


EDIT: Well... f**k me, I ended up ordering one for myself :P

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I wouldn't bring it out in the rain though


I was about to say that, quadcopters don't like water at all!!!

I only saw one model that was water proof but it was meant to be able to "land" on water (which effectively is not called land anymore but don't know the word for it :P ). But don't know how good would it be flying in rain though...

Cheers,
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Ha! Impulse buying, sure you only live once! Make sure you get a good quality class 10 minimum micro sd. I think the max it takes at the moment is 64GB, a future firmware update may allow it to take a 128. A second battery is a must too IMO. I'm still waiting for my second one😤. It took two weeks for it to be delivered to me, but can take up to 5. Good luck with it!


It was actually not that impulsive, I wanted to get a drone for ages now but was very reluctant to spend €1k on one... €350 though? Santy took care of the bill :D

Yes, I have a class 10 64GB SD card ready to go and also ordered the extra battery.

I used to fly DJI 2 and 3s on a previous job so well aware on how critical the extra battery is. I've been reading that they do charge quite quickly but that the remote will take ages to charge, but didn't say how long the remote will last for... will it hold for an hour?

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I picked up a Xiaomi Mi Drone 4k from Gearbest in China. Worked out at €340 delivered and avoided customs. For the money it's an amazing machine with lots of cool features and very easy to fly. A lovely drone to capture those memories in the van. Fly responsibly!


That sounds like great value, I'll check that out. Nice one :)


EDIT: Well... f**k me, I ended up ordering one for myself :P

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I wouldn't bring it out in the rain though


I was about to say that, quadcopters don't like water at all!!!

I only saw one model that was water proof but it was meant to be able to "land" on water (which effectively is not called land anymore but don't know the word for it :P ). But don't know how good would it be flying in rain though...

Cheers,
Rami

Ha! Impulse buying, sure you only live once! Make sure you get a good quality class 10 minimum micro sd. I think the max it takes at the moment is 64GB, a future firmware update may allow it to take a 128. A second battery is a must too IMO. I'm still waiting for my second one😤. It took two weeks for it to be delivered to me, but can take up to 5. Good luck with it!


It was actually not that impulsive, I wanted to get a drone for ages now but was very reluctant to spend €1k on one... €350 though? Santy took care of the bill :D

Yes, I have a class 10 64GB SD card ready to go and also ordered the extra battery.

I used to fly DJI 2 and 3s on a previous job so well aware on how critical the extra battery is. I've been reading that they do charge quite quickly but that the remote will take ages to charge, but didn't say how long the remote will last for... will it hold for an hour?

Cheers,
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Ah yes you will get 2 to 3 hours of play from the remote. It's a 2600 mAh battery. Will take just over 2 hours to charge but I haven't ever ran it too low to know for sure.


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Posted: 07.12.2017  ·  #31
Jack, just to let you know that Wex Photographic are currently offering the DJI Phantom 3 Professional for £699 along with interest free credit if required.


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Thanks John for the info. I’ll give them a look although I won’t need interest free credit but when it’s going I might as well avail of it? 😝


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Jack, just to let you know that Wex Photographic are currently offering the DJI Phantom 3 Professional for £699 along with interest free credit if required.


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Watching with interest. Now, what could I sell. 🤔


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Came across this whilst looking at the boards.ie pages on the Enniscorthy bypass.

https://www.iaa.ie/general-aviation/drones

But I dare say our members who ‘drone’, if that is the term ! Already are aware of this. I assume that something similar exists or is in the pipeline in the North.

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Came across this whilst looking at the boards.ie pages on the Enniscorthy bypass.

https://www.iaa.ie/general-aviation/drones

But I dare say our members who ‘drone’, if that is the term ! Already are aware of this. I assume that something similar exists or is in the pipeline in the North.

Davy


That's actually really good info it did clear a few questions that I had and while it's 90% common sense, it's nice to have the facts.

Surprise that they call them "drones" though...




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Drones – Q&A
The use of drones is becoming more and more prevalent in Ireland and people who intend
to operate drones should be aware of their responsibilities to ensure that they do so safely.
This Q&A information has been developed by the Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) to provide users
with information regarding the use of drones in Ireland.

1. What is a Drone?
A drone is an unmanned aircraft / remotely piloted aircraft.

2. Is there a difference between a drone and a model aircraft?
Model aircraft and drones are both considered small unmanned aircraft and the same rules apply to
their operation. These rules are contained within in the Small Unmanned Aircraft (Drones) and
Rockets Order, 2015 (SI 563 of 2015).

3. What aviation regulations govern the use of drones?
The Small Unmanned Aircraft (Drones) and Rockets Order, 2015 (SI 563 of 2015) regulates the use
of drones in Ireland. There are also Aeronautical Notices that apply to the use of drones only.

4. What is prohibited regarding the operation of drones?
The Small Unmanned Aircraft (Drones) and Rockets Order, 2015 (SI 563 of 2015) contains a number
of limitations for the operation of drones. These include never operating a drone:

• if it will be a hazard to another aircraft in flight
• over an assembly of people - 12 persons or more
• farther than 300m from the person operating the drone
• within 30m of any person, vessel or structure not under the control of the
person operating the drone
• closer than 5km from an aerodrome
• in a negligent or reckless manner so as to endanger life or property of others
• over 400ft (120m) above ground level
• over urban areas
• in civil or military controlled airspace
• in restricted areas (e.g. military installations, prisons, etc.)
• unless the person operating the drone has permission from the landowner for take-off and
landing.
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Please see the Small Unmanned Aircraft (Drones) and Rockets Order, 2015 (SI 563 of 2015) for
more detailed information.

5. Do I need a permission from the IAA to fly a drone? If so, what do I need?
No, provided you adhere to the limits prescribed within the Small Unmanned Aircraft (Drones)
and Rockets Order, 2015 SI 563 of 2015. (Please see question 4 above for the list of limits).

6. What if I want to fly my drone outside the limits prescribed in the regulations?
If you wish to fly your drone outside the limits prescribed in the regulations you must apply for a
Specific Operating Permission (SOP) from the IAA following training with one of the IAA
Registered Training Facilities (RTF). Please see www.iaa.ie/rtf for a list of training facilities.

7. How do I apply for a Specific Operating Permission to fly my drone?
In order to get a Specific Operating Permission, you must first attend a drone safety training
course and produce an operations manual that is acceptable to the IAA. Please see Aeronautical
Notice U.02 for more detailed information. To apply, go to www.iaa.ie/dronesapplicationforms

8. Do I need insurance to operate my drone?
The IAA recommends that everybody who operates a drone has insurance.

9. Do I need a permission to fly a drone with an inbuilt or mounted camera?
Irrespective of whether your drone has an inbuilt or mounted camera or not, the same
conditions apply. See Data Protection Commissioner website www.dataprotection.ie

10. Do the same regulations apply if I fly my drone over private property?
The regulations apply EVERYWHERE in Irish airspace. Be advised that there may be privacy or
trespass laws or other legal issues that should be taken into consideration by the person
operating the drone. These rules are not within the remit of the IAA.

11. Do I need to register my drone with the IAA?
All drones over 1kg and drones operated above 15m (50ft), must be registered with the IAA.
This includes the weight of the battery and all attached equipment. You can register your drone
via the IAA website at www.iaa.ie/drones

12. Do I need a qualification to operate a drone
If you operate within the limits set in the Small Unmanned Aircraft (Drones) and Rockets Order,
2015 (SI 563 of 2015), no qualification is required. However, to operate under Specific Operating
Permission, a Pilot Competency Certificate is required. www.iaa.ie/dronesapplicationforms
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13. Where can I get more information on the regulations and how to safely operate
a drone?
Please see the Small Unmanned Aircraft (Drones) and Rockets Order, 2015 (SI 563 of 2015)
and associated Aernoautical Notices. For further information, visit www.iaa.ie/drones

14. Do I need to register my model aircraft?
Yes. Model aircraft are treated in the same way as drones. All model aircraft over 1kg or
operated above 15m (50ft) must be registered with the IAA. For more, visit the Model
Aeronautics Council of Ireland at www.maci.ie

15. How do I register my drone?
You can register your drone via the IAA website at www.iaa.ie/drones. This is a two step process.
In order to register your drone, you must first register with ASSET, the IAA's online terrain mapping
system. Once done, you will be able to register your drone with the IAA via the ASSET system.

16. Where can I not fly my drone?
There are a number of airspace restrictions, in which you must never fly your drone. Please see question 18.

17. How can I tell if an aerodrome is nearby?
It is the responsibility of the person operating a drone to assess the area in which they intend to fly.
While the IAA’s ASSET tool can be used to establish the location of licensed aerodromes within the
State, it is essential for the person who will operate the drone to visually inspect the area in which
they intend to operate for aircraft activity.

18. How can I tell where controlled or restricted airspace is?
The IAA’s Asset tool can be used to determine controlled and restricted airspace areas. Please note
that the boundaries of restricted airspace may change and that Temporary Restricted Airspace areas
may be created. It is essential to get up to date information on controlled and restricted airspace via
ASSET every time you wish to fly.

19. Is there a minimum age for operating a drone?
While there is no minimum age for operating a drone in aviation regulation, the IAA advises that
age guidelines indicated by drone manufacturers are followed. You must be over 16 to register your
drone. A parent or guardian may register the drone for those under 16. Please note that other laws
may apply.

20. I want to use my drone for commercial activities. Do I need permission from the IAA?
You do not need permission from the IAA to use drones commercially. However, if you wish to fly
your drone outside the limits prescribed in the regulations you must apply for a Specific
Operating Permission from the IAA.

21. Up to what distance and height can I operate my drone?
You must not operate your drone beyond a distance of 300m or a height of 400ft (120m) above
ground level in uncontrolled airspace. You must not operate your drone beyond a distance of 300m
or a height of 50ft (15m) in certain parts of controlled airspace, see aeronautical notice U04.



Registering seems to be very straight forward and free, so by all means.


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Posted: 16.12.2017  ·  #37
I think I'll just nip out to the shed and knock up one of these for myself in case Jack gets his new toy and starts flying around down here. If you don't want to see the build go to 8:20 to see it in action.



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Posted: 16.12.2017  ·  #38


Hope you're a good shot........one might just come and sh*t on your Van!!


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Posted: 21.12.2017  ·  #40
No doubt very nice but a bit pricey? I’m waiting unti,the Sale after Christmas rightly or wrongly? 😝


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